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saw a comment someone made on a post saying “it’s not possible to read dark fiction and not have that affect your morals, you can’t train your brain NOT to normalize those things!” and i completely agree
as a life-long crime fiction and horror fan, i am an immoral monster. i’ve watched all 456 episodes of law and order and committed a murder after each one. i ate my neighbors after watching hannibal. i started a meth lab after breaking bad. i ruined my high school prom because i watched carrie the night before. in middle school i read stephen king’s it, went down to the sewers with some friends and
The difference is, in those examples, the killers or whatever aren’t praised or romanticised by the narrative, it’s clear that they’re meant to be the bad guys, that their actions are condemned and wrong. The comment op mentions sounds like they mean THAT kind of thing, and you really can’t deny that there’s plenty of content out there with rape, murder and pedophilia that ends up romanticised by the narrative.
Of course a story is allowed to have terrible, terrible things happen. While some people are dumbass enough to say they aren’t, that’s rare and not what the vast majority of people are saying.
As long as you’re not letting your stories praise this shit - which yes, can affect how other people view these things - it’s okay. Christ, nobody is trying to ban you from watching crime shows.
Even in the above examples, when there’s a protagonist who does this shit, the show doesn’t try to paint this as heroic, not something that people should do, and that’s the difference.
Please remember this, and stop defending yourself against something that people aren’t attacking in the first place.
Not to mention fiction cant affect your morals when it’s about something widely accepted as bad, It mostly has to be something that assert something already ingrained in you by society
Racist charicatures in media affected how people see PoC because we’re raised on a white supremacist society.
Romanticized abusive relationships in media affects how we react to abusive behaviour because we’re raised in a society where it is normalized.
Trans people in media being the butt of the joke affected how serious people take trans people in real life because we’re raised in a transphobic society.
Murder is not something taught in our schools and homes as something cool, unless the victims are bad guys, so maybe no you won’t start murdering people, but you definitely can find ways to excuse murder after a pattern of who is the bad guy. (This is just an example on how something as outlandish as murder can actually change how people think)
So yeah, darkfics and horror movies won’t change your pshyche forever, but saying midia doesnt have any impact at all on how people view things is pretty silly imo
See, the problem is that lots of people in this godforsaken website don’t criticize media nor the system nor society but just the individuals who consume it. I’ve seen multiple times “If you’re a fan of this, you’re a bad person” or “If you enjoyed this you’re a bad person” or “if you write about this you’re a bad person” as if people couldn’t have a complex relationship with a piece of media. There’s a huge difference between saying “this piece of media has this element that is (And I hate using this word because it’s lost any meaning) problematic” and saying “If you enjoy this piece of media it means you completely agree with every single thing it shows and you’re a horrible person, kill yourself”
And also people here DO demonize a story cause it has X element even if in story it’s seen as a bad thing that you shouldn’t imitate nor normalize. SPECIALLY if it’s fanfiction.
I’ve seen people showing off how many fics in ao3 are tagged with rape to justify why they dislike the archive even tho most fics I’ve seen with that tag treat it in story as an obviously evil thing.
Not to mention, it’s fucking fanfiction. The person who made it not only isn’t paid for it, but it’s also not gonna reach a big audience. It’s literally something someone made in their free time and wanted to share, just because, not for others to consume but for pure self indulgence, so that’s why I honestly don’t care if a fic has X stereotype or transmits X message or is just torture porn, someone just wanted to make it and I’m not entitled to know why or what relationship they have with that story, maybe it’s vent art, maybe they didn’t think it through, maybe it just gets them horny, if someone asks for criticism it’s ok to point those stuff out, and as a writer I try to think what message the things I make have, but at the end fanfiction is for self indulgence and fanfic writers aren’t obligated to analyze every single line of their works until it’s pure unproblematic heaven light.
You say don’t defend yourself against something people aren’t attacking, but, the thing is, there ARE morons attacking people over this, maybe you just haven’t seen those guys who go around every time ao3 asks for donations showing screenshots of how many fics are tagged as X or Y to argue the site is evil and every single person who’s ever used it deserves to die, and I envy you for that, I wish I didn’t see them either. But they. Do. Exist. And they’re SO FUCKING ANNOYING
I think it’s pretty obvious OP isn’t arguing people shouldn’t be critical of media, but just that they’re tired of the idiots who go around saying if you ever liked a fanfic where two family members are shipped it means you’re a deviant monster sicko who should be buried alive and doesn’t qualify as a human being. And honestly, I’m tired of that too.